I'm using Winamp since many years and work today with latest release 5.666 Build 3516. Everything always worked whithout problems since a few months except starting from yesterday afternoon may 14th. It became impossible to submit a song for tags and that even for those who were already checked and filled some weeks ago. Each time I get the same reply: no file matching. As I have a few Pc's, I tried the same on all the others but each gives me the same reply.
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I'm also using 'MusicBrainz Picard' and there I get positive results. Is there some problem with the Gracenote plugins?
The MusicID libraries aren't installed with Winamp Lite, only with the Full version. The Gracenote CDDB libraries come with Lite though. Please attach your List Of Plugins, so we can see if the required DLL's are present or not.
On one machine, I used regsvr32 to register the 'dll' files but to no avail. This looks very strange and I really need some help or explanation regarding this problem. Thank you for some reply concerning this problem. It looks like the access Winamp had to Gracenote's services has been terminated and is the reason why things have stopped working. This was going to happen anyway as a result of the in January where the deal with them was not going to be renewed (and if Winamp and SHOUTcast hadn't been bought, what you're now seeing would have happened anyway), but we weren't at all sure when things were going to stop working (as all that was known is it might be sometime between the start of 2014 and early 2015).
As such until a new Winamp client is released with a Musicbrainz based solution (as we're not aiming to have a new client out until the end of the year due to the mass of work required to remove / replace the AOL / Gracenote specific parts), there's not much i can really suggest at the time on what can be done as an alternative for the Gracenote powered features. I saw this too yesterday. Does anyone have another method/software that does the same thing? With iTunes for example when trying to update the file info it says that I have to import the songs with iTunes in order to do that (I guess from the original CD or something.?). So it can't be done when dragging a song into the file library.
I guess there's plenty of people here that used to update the file infos for the mp3's with the auto-tag option. So if anyone can suggest another program, please let me know. Sadly that this happened. Thanks DrO - I was pulling my hair out trying to fix this yesterday - I guess the clue was it no longer shows 'powered by gracenote' during the look-up.
I found the auto tagging exceeding accurate - somehow identifying the correct album tag with seemingly identical tracks (eg it would know which track was from the greatest hits) and with a few tagging clues, it would have a good guess at identifying home ripped albums and tapes. Its power derived from audio finger printing, and this is not a common feature available for home use. Other tagging apps rely on all the tracks from the CD being present and in the correct order and often that you know the precise album name - if you mistag in the first place, then having lost the original track order, I find it difficult to recover, other than manually tagging them. Picard (musicbrainz) is a popular app and does fingerprint, but I found the version for PC hopeless, and it is unclear what is going on at all. MegaTogger 5.1 also uses the musicbrainz finngerprint db, presumably as you intend to implement, and its interface is much much better, but it will only correct the title and artist tags.
Better than nothing. It gets a lot right, but incorrectly identifies classic chart number 1's so either the database is pretty basic, the fingerprinting ambiguous, or it lacks the fuzzy logic of the gracenote processing. Maybe the db will have improved by the time of the winamp release. If there are some better audio finger printers available, then my initial search has not discovered them. I am surprised google or someone has not offered to pay for the winamp tagging function in return for profile information - if it knows exactly what we are listening to, it can sell us more. Not ideal, but everything has a price, as we have just found out.
Whatever the system used, it's only as good as the information which people put into it and personally i found Gracenote's CDDB lookups very hit and miss (or just people don't care about getting things correct compared to the actual titling on the CD case itself!). How Winamp's version will be is still something i'm planning (since we'd been working on a 2015 termination of the Gracenote access, although it's one of the top features we've got to get replaced before a new release is provided anyway). Picard isn't too bad i find, though it really depends on what has been put in previously (or rather not as seems to be your case). Manually updating of information in Winamp should still work, but yes it's a pain (especially as i've had to buy some new CDs so i'm going to be able to check out things during testing). Considering the poor communication which came from Gracenote when under the prior ownership (not being informed the buggy SDK we had to use was EOL'd for example - which to support their new SDK meant a re-write of the functionality anyway), i'm somewhat anti-Gracenote. Especially with the sort of financial numbers that they're expecting to keep using their service which is just exorbitant (and not viable for a free player like we are). Hence why we're changing to more open / free solutions.
Which is no more different than having to re-write things to use their newer SDK and more importantly by not using Gracenote, we're able to consider making use of a wider range of services instead of being dependent upon a single one which has its issues as we're clearly seeing now. Since the Gracenote terms prevented using alternative sources for tag lookup, etc. So it's going to be painful for those who need such functionality, but in the long run we should have a better solution available than what went before (as well as hopefully re-instating the ability to do cover art lookup which hasn't been enabled for 2yrs due to licensing 'crap'). Have you read my first reply in this thread? As under the new ownership (since Winamp was sold in January instead of being completely killed off as was the alternative), we didn't know when the Gracenote access was going to be stopped (as we're not parle of any contractual agreements AOL and Gracenote had and has been reinforced, Gracenote didn't particularly care about Winamp now that the massive payments they took have ended!) so it would not be possible to provide any notice of it (especially as it wasn't clear if it was going to happen in 2014 or 2015).
So i can only apologise for the issues this is causing though i know that's not enough for a lot of people, but it's sadly how things have had to play out. And i realise with the time scale we're working on to have a new Winamp client sans AOL / Gracenote aspects will not come soon enough for many (as we're targeting the end of the year for a new release) and is why on a gloriously sunny Saturday i'm stuck inside and working on the Gracenote replacement parts. I've tried the Mp3tag and the MusicBrainz Picard softwares but they're so sinuous. So far from the simple one-click method on the Auto-tag, that Winamp had. I have a various selection of many songs and for example I was dragging a song and tried to update its file info.
The file was totally renamed (info + its name) like this: ' -00 - ' and so many options there on the panel that seem to be useless for what I need. Can someone explain how they work or if they're doing the job well? I don't need a software with a ton of options, just one that updates the mp3's file info from the Gracenote database. Oh, how I wish I'd seen this thread earlier. I've been transferring music from burned cdrs and dvdrs to my hard drive and external hd, and tagging them in winamp. They're mostly Japanese, and the gracenote tagging has been quick, mostly accurate, and a saviour for actually finding out the artist name and song title for a lot of songs that were complete mysteries. I've gone through 122 cds, with approximately 288 to go.
After the tagging issue suddenly arose a few days ago, I googled for a solution, and found a few old threads by people with the same problem, with a few suggestions for fixes - update addons, do a complete winamp uninstall and clean install, roll back computer to a previous restore date, and so on. Needless to say, none of them worked. I've downloaded mp3tag, and the mp3 source for amazon.co.jp, so it sort of does the job, but it's quite tedious, and can't identify any of the unknown songs by unknown artists. Thank you for explaining what the problem is. I was getting pretty frustrated trying to find a solution when there isn't one. I didn't even realize winamp had new owners. That's good news, as I've been using it for as long as I've had a computer (with the old mac osx aqua skin), and don't care for any of the alternatives I've used.
The autotag function, however, is one of the best things about it, so I look forward to the day it works again. Hopefully it will be as helpful and intuitive as the previous one. Quote: This plugin verifies your rips against CTDB database, and submits new CDs to it. It can also serve as a metadata plugin, providing access to MusicBrainz, Discogs and FreeDB metadata via CTDB. CTDB replicates Musicbrainz database hourly, Discogs and FreeDB - monthly.
In addition to direct discid search, it supports the same fuzzy search algorithm as Musicbrainz, and also uses it for Discogs and FreeDB data, increasing the chance that correct metadata will be found. I have had that plugin offer me different results from different providers, and I pick the one I like best, which is great. EAC also allows other plugins, including paid for ones, to be installed / used. The reason I have never used picard / musicbrainz apps is b/c they spam a lot of musicbrainz specific fields into one's tags, and I don't like that, esp since some apps will use those tags for sorting and so on over, or instead of, the obvious ones you can easily see and edit. Let me clarify that I have np with musicbrainz as a source for normal tags, which is what EAC inserts, I just don't want winamp to insert MB specific tag fields/frames that I don't want, or at the very least have the option to opt out of those frames being inserted. EAC will parlay the metadata it find into album image lookups, and I almost always find my art with it. It looks to me like it searches via web searches, like google, but of specific sites.
Just a guess. Mp3tag also has image lookup. It would be a really great idea to use a system that does use these multiple sources, and also does its own thing. What I mean is a system that adds a tag for the md5 hash value, audio fingerprinting, degree of confidence comparisons and so on. What I am suggesting is you could do a lot beyond just metadata lookups, but as a byproduct of them. Exact file matching, audio fingerprint comparison (good for eliminating dupes as well as metadata lookup), and adding a tag with the hash so the analysis of the file need only be done once. Winamp could also allow users to opt in to a system where winamp creates its own DB, and social network where users can share the metadata of their own collections, meaning not just a freedb clone, but kind of like winamp cloud without the music, so that users could say 'here is my stuff, look at it' or compare ratings, and that could serve as a music recommendation engine.
So anyway, just throwing it all out there. Well this friggin sucks! WINAMP has been my go-to player for so long I can't even remember a time when I used anything else. But now it appears to be that time. I've downloaded every suggested MP3 tagging program and they are super bloated and incredibly difficult to use. Rename&Tag was one, i think. Then Magic Tagger.
Then the one mentioned a few posts up, MP3Tag. There is no way to simply play a song within those programs and click one button and BAM, tagged. No, of course these people make it incredibly difficult and explain nothing. Is there ANY other player out there that is ACTUALLY user friendly and easy tag or am I stuck using WinAMP and manually tagging my albums? This really sucks, I wish WinAMP had thought of the millions of users it has and maybe set some things up for a smooth transition to another owner.
There are thousands of companies that are purchased that you wouldn't even realize because they don't want to lose customers to rivals. It's really too bad because I love WinAMP and to read that things won't be back to normal until 2015 (more than likely), it just sucks. I wish WinAMP had thought of the millions of users it has and maybe set some things up for a smooth transition to another owner. There are thousands of companies that are purchased that you wouldn't even realize because they don't want to lose customers to rivals. Last November AOL announced they were going to shutdown Winamp in December.
1 month notice to shutdown, not sell. AOL has yet to provide a reason(s) why.
Anyway, Radionomy stepped up and offered to buy it. There was no time for a smooth, seamless transition. As a 15 year Winamp user, I'm happy it has survived and can wait a few months for it to get back to normal or even better than it was.
As you are finding out, there is no other app like Winamp or even close. I think it will be worth the wait.
That said, I've heard that MediaMonkey's tagging feature is not too bad. Let me clarify that I have np with musicbrainz as a source for normal tags, which is what EAC inserts, I just don't want winamp to insert MB specific tag fields/frames that I don't want, or at the very least have the option to opt out of those frames being inserted.
I have noticed that as we could probably only get away with 2 or 3 of the ones that are added by Picard for example. Though i'm leaning towards adding anything which can be calculated so we offer as much compatibility with other players / services which rely on those tags as well as having to minimise the amount of further remote lookups than is needed to be done. It would be a really great idea to use a system that does use these multiple sources, and also does its own thing. What I mean is a system that adds a tag for the md5 hash value, audio fingerprinting, degree of confidence comparisons and so on. There will be a finger print aspect, most likely provided via the AcoustID system which then allows us to obtain Musicbrainz ids and go from there.
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The overall aim is we rely more on Musicbrainz ids which allows for better interoperability with other systems so we can swap and change services as needed down the road without too much pain (unlike the situation we're now under). By 'audio fingerprinting', do you mean digital file identification? About 14 years ago I downloaded a lot of music from a Japanese independent radio site - they were playable on the site as.rma files, but I was unable to find the actual.rm files, so I recorded them in real time using total recorder, saved them as wav files, then converted them to mp3. As I couldn't read much Japanese at the time and online translators weren't particularly good, many of these songs were mysterious mp3s with no song or artist information, until I discovered that even after all the conversions, I could click 'autotag' in winamp and it could identify them. I found that pretty amazing.
There's no chance of striking a deal with the new owners of Gracenote? According to wikipedia, Sony sold Gracenote to Tribune Company earlier this year. Or is there some reason for not wanting to use Gracenote? I have no experience using MusicBrainz, but my main concern is that its autotag/file identification system is as fluent in Japanese as Gracenote is. We Winamp will not use Gracenote as its too expensive and limits what can be used in the player for other aspects (and is one of the ways that will allow us to keep Winamp free - unless everyone wants to pay to use such features.). And I was not aware that they Gracenote had changed ownership like we have as well. For fingerprinting I'd suggest having a looking at the acoustid details from the link mrsinatra posted.
Obviously we don't know how the replacement will fare since it all depends on the quality of the information in the system (like I'm finding artwork lookup via musicbrainz's service very hit and miss whereas last.fm's gets something most of the time but the image sizes can really vary). And just like how what was used worked well for some, for others and myself included it often gave poor results (which is annoying when I've got the physical CD and case with me to find someone has entered crap into the system). I still use an old CDex v1.51 to burn CDs with when I don't use Winamp. It uses freedb.org to lookup Disc information. I used to use it a lot more often in the past because of the normalization you could do with it which Winamp did not do at the time or handle as well (some of my classical CDs you can barely hear because the overall volume is so low).
It also allowed me to enter start/end sector offset values because Winamp would record the start of the next track at the end of the current track on the system I had at the time. Regardless, usually, I had to manually edit the results with both programs as the data was only as accurate as it was entered by someone. The old 'garbage in, garbage out' saying applies. So, I guess if I rip any CDs now, I'll need to go back to CDex to do the initial lookup. I don't blame DrO for not wanting anything to do with Gracenote. Though Gracenote has a new owner, they're still an independent subsidary.
That means no matter who is the owner of Gracenote, the developer zone guidelines won't change. The problem I have with Gracenote is the way they determine whether developers are considered commercial or non-commercial. Because there is a both a free and pro version of Winamp, Gracenote is more that likely say the developers of Winamp are commercial, though Gracenote software would be a free feature and not a premium feature.
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If MusicBrainz was used instead of Gracenote, I believe the MetaBrainz Foundation would also consider Winamp developers commercial, but would only ask 10% profits made from the pro version to be donated. MusicBrainz is a better option for being a free feature of Winamp over Gracenote. That's assuming there will still be a pro version - though the Gracenote provided functionality was in the free and pro versions so whatever happens with the versions, it really needs to be maintained in the free option. Either way, using setups based on musicbrainz ids makes things simpler in the long run if needing to swap / change the services used (since so many accept / require them) instead of being Gracenote specific. Which we've been using for over a decade and i'm sure that for a lot of people it was good to use them, but as the top cause of crashes and bloat in the installer and personally getting bad results too often as well as the underlying cost of things (AOL might have been willing to absorb the costs especially when it was used across multiple products and systems on their side but it's not viable now), it's time to move on and we'll have to see what comes out of the decisions and research in things that is being made. I believe iTunes uses gracenote, but I could be wrong. DrO, there are two other things I have not mentioned recently that I really hope you will consider when implementing the new system.
Both may sound familiar as I think I and others have requested them before: 1. Create an option to add ONLY 'missing' tags. This is something WMP actually has! The way it works is that when you autotag either one file or a whole batch of them, you can instruct the app to only add metadata to those fields which either: A. Do not exist / have values, or B.
Have only 'spaces' for values. This is a great way to flesh out your tags without losing any tagging you already did. (it would be cool to only add missing artwork as well) 2. Check out a Linux app called 'puddletag.' Its kind of like mp3tag but native for Linux. It has a feature that when you autotag a file, you get presented with 'old/current tags' and 'new/proposed' tags, like how winamp did it.
The wrinkle is that the 'new tags' part of it has a checkbox for each field so that you could specify which fields would actually be written or not. Very useful for changing only that which you want changed! ALSO, being able to DIRECTLY EDIT the proposed 'new tags' before they are written would be VERY useful! You could also get fancy and differently color the text font of anything on the 'new side' that differs from the old side.
As already explained, the Gracenote MusicID libraries aren't included in Winamp Lite, only in Winamp Full, Bundle or Pro. For Winamp Lite, from the List of Plugins in jjacques529's post: CDDBControlWinamp.dll (1313kb) CDDBUIWinamp.dll (1021kb) For Winamp Full (from my own personal List Of Plugins) CDDBControlWinamp.dll (1329kb) CDDBUIWinamp.dll (1021kb) CddbMusicIDWinamp.dll (901kb) CddbPlaylist2Winamp.dll (1017kb) CddbWOManagerWinamp.dll (377kb) Cddbx1.dll (221kb) Cddbx2.dll (585kb) Cddbx3.dll (637kb) Cddbx4.dll (269kb) Cddbx5.dll (381kb) Ideally, the Auto-Tag button in the File Info dialog (Alt+3) should be greyed-out unless CddbMusicIDWinamp.dll is present. Hi ofsahin You'll need to register the dll's first If running on Windows Vista or 7, then go to: Start - Programs - Accessories: Right click 'Command Prompt' and select: Run as administrator If on Win2k/XP, then you can just start the command prompt as normal, eg. Via: Start - Run - cmd Type the following, hitting Enter after each line (wait for the 'DLL register success' message each time): regsvr32 'X: Path To Winamp Plugins Gracenote CddbMusicIDWinamp.dll' regsvr32 'X: Path To Winamp Plugins Gracenote cddbcontrolwinamp.dll' regsvr32 'X: Path To Winamp Plugins Gracenote cddbuiwinamp.dll' regsvr32 'X: Path To Winamp Plugins Gracenote CddbPlaylist2Winamp.dll' Where 'X: Path To' is the exact path to the Winamp program folder, eg. 32-bit OS default dir: regsvr32 'C: Program Files Winamp Plugins Gracenote CddbMusicIDWinamp.dll' 64-bit OS default dir: regsvr32 'C: Program Files (x86) Winamp Plugins Gracenote CddbMusicIDWinamp.dll' The first line/file is specifically for MusicID/Autotag The next two are for CDDB The last one is for Playlist Generator You might only need to register CddbMusicIDWinamp.dll to get Autotag to work, because afaik, the two cddb dll's should already be registered.
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Or you can just create a.bat batch file in Notepad and run that instead (you'll need to run it as admin (via rt-click) under Win7/Vista) I assume you've also copied gracenote.w5s to the Winamp System folder? (though it should already be there). For others wondering how ofsahin might have obtained the extra DLL's.
Download the Full or Pro installer, open it in (9.1x beta version or newer) and manually extract the files from 0 Plugins Gracenote. As already explained, the Gracenote MusicID libraries aren't included in Winamp Lite, only in Winamp Full, Bundle or Pro. For Winamp Lite, from the List of Plugins in jjacques529's post: CDDBControlWinamp.dll (1313kb) CDDBUIWinamp.dll (1021kb) For Winamp Full (from my own personal List Of Plugins) CDDBControlWinamp.dll (1329kb) CDDBUIWinamp.dll (1021kb) CddbMusicIDWinamp.dll (901kb) CddbPlaylist2Winamp.dll (1017kb) CddbWOManagerWinamp.dll (377kb) Cddbx1.dll (221kb) Cddbx2.dll (585kb) Cddbx3.dll (637kb) Cddbx4.dll (269kb) Cddbx5.dll (381kb) Ideally, the Auto-Tag button in the File Info dialog (Alt+3) should be greyed-out unless CddbMusicIDWinamp.dll is present. I have WinAmp Lite and I need to tag my mp3 files. Is GraceNote the best database to use? Your 2009 post states that GraceNote I need WinAmp Pro ($20.00). Is this correct as of today?
I am happy to purchase WinAmp Pro if it can accurately tag my files (1000's) with correct title, artist, genre, and so on. Based on this, should I upgrade? Thanks in advance.